Chapter - Tower of God Chapter 625 Spoilers & Discussion (2024)

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Demonspeed said:

From Chapter 577.

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Those three does not include Leviathan though. Traumerei no longer posses Leviathan at that time.

zoradante1 said:

strength of a creature does not correlate with controlling. Wang wang was roughly at the same level as yasratcha but unlike him he is not controlled.

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Levi strength alone is not the core of my comment.

The foundation of his strength, as well the three white dragons, were DIRECTLY stimulated by Traumeri power. Based on dialogue since Leviathan’s intro, the infusion of a Traum power into him may even supersede the potency of even Jahad Princesse’s receiving Ja blood or whatever he does to upgrade them.

furthermore coupled with Traum’s “greater purpose” for Levi, to store unwanted memories, which I’ll say makes Levi very unique, is similar to the robots from I Robot becoming sentient.

Hmmm, if we go by garam arlene was unable to kill herself due to her immortality contract... Knowing that to me it sounds at least possible, if not likely, that the leviathan is wrong about the 3 water dragons having the capacity to kill traumerei even combined with his own power. I suppose the big question is how exactly gustang plans on killing traumerei.

And we finally do have context regarding what makes the 3 dragons special. I can buy traumerie being able to fight with other family heads through the shineuh we have seen so far given his capacity to enhance them far beyond their natural strength but it's clear that if the water dragons are infused with traumerie's essence then they are going to be special among his creatures. I suppose the 3 dragons will fulfill the role of weapon or attribute for traumerie... Perhaps he'd even wield them like how bam is using leviathan now, as a weapon. I am also not sure if the 3 water dragons are counted among the 7 creatures traumerie supposedly carries with him. As far as I can tell the 7 creatures were with him since pretty early in traumerie's climb but these water dragons seem from later on in the game... Also you'd think all 7 creatures would be named after a deadly sin but the water dragons we have seen do not appear to have that theme. Maybe I am misremembering some details regarding this though.

So in a way, Traumerei's three sea dragons are like Gustang's own scriptures. I wonder what sort of creations the other FHs have.

Arie Hon most certainly have sentient swords like the one in Hoaqin's flashback. Bloodmadder might have a lot of them since his natural born children are cursed. (Maybe Yu Hansung is one of them). Yeon might've created Ilarde to conceive her descendants.

lanternpo said:

Unfortunately it seems like that isn't that farfetched of an idea. And besides, we already know Bam would never use all of his powers at once, let alone at full power

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Thats the annoying part. what the hell did he do training with FUG. Its like some gohan cell ish, go all out.

kkck said:

if not likely, that the leviathan is wrong about the 3 water dragons having the capacity to kill traumerei

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Leviathan said that if we have 3 sea dragons, there might be a way to defeat Traumerei.

Not sure this plan can success and not say this can kill him.

Epic_Rider said:

Baam's character arc has been quite good and consistent actually. Powerlevel stuff isn't character writing.

This was always the case. All ranged weapon users fall under Spear Bearers. I'm pretty sure the Position is only called Spear Bearer because of Eduan.

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Not really. Some rifle users, like Lefav, are spear bearers. Some, like Levin, are light bearers. LeroRo used a gun in his fight against fug ranker, well it wasn't his weapon of choice, but he as a light bearer could use it. I wonder in what category falls Lo Po Bia Katan, maybe he's a fisherman with guns.

Baam is manifesting his powers externally like that because he got Mimesis. It's not going to change. One day he'll have a complete transformation.

Yelnats said:

Those three does not include Leviathan though. Traumerei no longer posses Leviathan at that time.

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I don't get why you are excluding Leviathan. I just said that Sea Dragon hadn't been used as translation to describe them, unlike in this chapter. Water Dragon had been used and Baam coincidentally could only use part of Leviathan's technique via his Water Dragon technique. It's logical to assume that Leviathan and the three others are the same type of Shinheuhs. Or are you saying that Leviathan is a Sea Dragon but the others are Water Dragons? I don't think it's very important.

Qenjin said:

So it seems like SIU is setting up the finale of this arc. Baam will have to get 3 water dragons to defeat traumerei. So it seems if baam will beat traumerei it wont be with his own power, but assisted by dragons. I wonder when there will be a time Baam just overpower his enemy with his own strength not borrowed power always

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And what is Gustang going to do then? How is Baam even supposed to steal the dragons? They are most likely his loot after Traumerei's defeat. Even if he were to steal them all, I don't think it would be enough to best Traumerei. He has enough trouble controlling what he has now. It would give him enough raw power to injure FHs when they are serious and that's it.

O_n_Sly said:

Traum ordered WW to impregnate NN LOL

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If i ordee my cat to impregnate another cat, and the cat has a baby,, im the one who make them??? Bro logic is so dull

Chip said:

Yeah no, Yama is Wang Wang's son the Workshop has nothing to do with him

Enkidu also has nothing to do with the Workshop it's one of the Ancients Zahard eradicated from the Tower

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Unless siu said this, this is non canon

OneEye said:

Damn, we now know, or at least have an idea of how big a deal prime Traum could be! No doubt the ultimate beings from LPB family keep crushing the top ones from Gustang's family. Traum really did invest a lot to produce such great creatures, and he started such a long time ago even before the 10 family system was created :
- he created the ideal conditions and supervised Yama's conception, with the vessel of an ancient beast (Yama who is now trashing the strongest front of the Po Bidau army).
- he personally trained Enkidu and got him admin contracts, (who later murdered Tiara).
- personally supervised the conception of the twin princesses with the immortal snake.
- created 4 dragons that can be nightmares to almost all members from at least the Po Bidau family. (We saw Jinsung amazed by a small fraction of Levi's powers, and Yuri is definitely below Levi [ Yuri << Tiara<<<Enkidu]).
- and there he was, personally selecting Baam as heir, in other to have two irregulars in his family...

No doubt Traum is a damn Terminator brain box programmed for ultimate success

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Yet bro family going falling down, all those Terminator brain ended up because bro cant treat his own children the correct way

King Dryst said:

SIU lowkey brought Baam down again in this chapter, also. Everybody always makes excuses for his current shortcomings by offering pablum about his potential being greater than anyone else's. Yet now we see that the space within him is 'only' on the same level as Traumerei's. So he's just on the same footing as the others, and not anything fundamentally greater. There's not anything about him that surpasses the other Irregulars.

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Plus another PU in vain

Pick his rescue Hero for him:

A- Urek
B- Luslec
C- AA and Rak
D- shibisu group

lianecel said:

If i ordee my cat to impregnate another cat, and the cat has a baby,, im the one who make them??? Bro logic is so dull

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It’s called being a breeder LOL!!!

Grace12025 said:

So in a way, Traumerei's three sea dragons are like Gustang's own scriptures. I wonder what sort of creations the other FHs have.

Arie Hon most certainly have sentient swords like the one in Hoaqin's flashback. Bloodmadder might have a lot of them since his natural born children are cursed. (Maybe Yu Hansung is one of them). Yeon might've created Ilarde to conceive her descendants.

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Itd be like a chinese novel

a sword that has gained a spirit. The powerful swords could take on the human form.

hencosmic said:

Not really. Some rifle users, like Lefav, are spear bearers. Some, like Levin, are light bearers. LeroRo used a gun in his fight against fug ranker, well it wasn't his weapon of choice, but he as a light bearer could use it. I wonder in what category falls Lo Po Bia Katan, maybe he's a fisherman with guns.

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I mean sure, but it doesn't change the point that anyone who specialises in ranged weapons as a Position gets put into Spear Bearer.

King Dryst said:

SIU lowkey brought Baam down again in this chapter, also. Everybody always makes excuses for his current shortcomings by offering pablum about his potential being greater than anyone else's. Yet now we see that the space within him is 'only' on the same level as Traumerei's. So he's just on the same footing as the others, and not anything fundamentally greater. There's not anything about him that surpasses the other Irregulars.

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You forgot to mention the part where the inside of Baam gets bigger the more he absorbs.

This is not really an accurate way to express it though, it's more like neither Baam or Leviathan can really gauge Baam's vessel because they can only compare it to smaller things like Leviathan.

O_n_Sly said:

Soo how exactly is Bam going to capture Traum’s sea dragons?!?! Is Bam going to warp into Traum’s All Creature while Traum fights Gustang?!?!

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Just like red thryssa once the dragons lost their master they will need a place to stay so they will obviously chose Baam like red thryssa did.

Traumerei seems stronger than Gustang but im not sure what Gustang can do with that Watch.
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Demonspeed said:

I don't get why you are excluding Leviathan. I just said that Sea Dragon hadn't been used as translation to describe them, unlike in this chapter. Water Dragon had been used and Baam coincidentally could only use part of Leviathan's technique via his Water Dragon technique. It's logical to assume that Leviathan and the three others are the same type of Shinheuhs. Or are you saying that Leviathan is a Sea Dragon but the others are Water Dragons? I don't think it's very important.

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I mean Leviathan is not 1 of the 3.