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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 5:20 pm Controlling Heat...I live in Florida and where I live in the summer, It's often over 90 F and we always have 100% Humidity. I currently live in a old house with no AC or Heat. We cannot put a Window Unit in, and cannot have Central AC installed (please don't ask, we just can't!) Moving is not a option as well. I'm fixing to start working nights, so I will be sleeping during day. My bedroom is 10 X 10 with 1 Window. I have the following in my bedroom: Desktop Computer with 19" CRT Monitor I have been thinking about getting a storage unit and putting all this in storage and just having my laptop and us e it as a TV/Computer. I'm also wondering how humidity affects electronics? It's currently only in the lower 70's outside with 80% humidity and I'm already starting to feel sticky because of the humidity. The only option I might have is to move in, or at least stay with an aunt... however, she is fixing to hit rock bottom and loose her house and car. She's already several months behind on both. On top of that, it will also add a lot of millage/time onto my already long commute. Thank You. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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SandShark5 Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 5:27 pm Most electronic equipment will have operating temperature/humidity specifications listed in the back of the owner's manual. For instance, my DVD player has an operating temperature range of +41*F to +95*F and a operating humidity range of 10% to 75%. What your laptop specifications are, I can't say. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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robbin to MineCoast Mod 2007-Jan-21 5:31 pm I won't ask why you can't have a central system installed, but perhaps you could use a mini-split system heat pump. No ductwork, only small freon lines from outdoors to indoors. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast to SandShark5 Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 5:34 pm said by SandShark5: Most electronic equipment will have operating temperature/humidity specifications listed in the back of the owner's manual. For instance, my DVD player has an operating temperature range of +41*F to +95*F and a operating humidity range of 10% to 75%. What your laptop specifications are, I can't say. According to Dell, The max is: * Min operating temperature * Max operating temperature * Operating humidity range According to the Weather Channel, The Outside Humidity is: Wow.. I'm running right at the border. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast to robbin Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 5:38 pm said by robbin: I won't ask why you can't have a central system installed, but perhaps you could use a mini-split system heat pump. No ductwork, only small freon lines from outdoors to indoors. Let's just say very stubborn grandparents. The Heat Pump Idea sounds nice, however, they just put new siding on the house and don't want anything drilled. Example: The Cable Line to my room is very bad that I have to have a powerful amp on it and Cox told us if the Amp didn't help, or it gets worse, we would need to run a new line. Know what my grandparents said? "If that happens, We'll just run a new line in the window" Nice! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 6:55 pm I can't picture the heat being good for mold. I have mold all around my window and we have a lot in the bathroom on the wall's as well. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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La Luna Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 7:06 pm said by MineCoast: I can't picture the heat being good for mold. I have mold all around my window and we have a lot in the bathroom on the wall's as well. That's from excessive humidity. Mold loves "wet and warm". That in itself should be reason enough to do something about the heat/humidity, it's not healthy to have that mold, not to mention it's just plain gross. Aren't your grandparents interested in maintaining their house? Seems odd that they're worried about drilling a tiny hole for a cable line, but mold is ok? At the very least, use a weak solution of bleach in water and clean the mold from your window area in your room. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MrFixitCT 2007-Jan-21 7:11 pm said by La Luna: it's not healthy to have that mold, not to mention it's just plain gross. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Warzau to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 7:59 pm Then let your Grandparents know that not reducing humidity not only help the growth of mold, but also attracts pests. Best be it window A/C and reduce electronic usage. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 8:10 pm said by DeadbeatMonkeys : You can save your money, move out and get your own place. That's what I'd like to do, however, the only way I can do that right now is to stop paying my credit card bills, or let the bank take my car back. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Warzau to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 9:14 pm Holy smokes you def NEED ventilation, need to lower the humidity via dehumidifiers or A/C ( remember to size it accordingly). Is ther ANY ventalation in the bathroom, fan or even opening a window? I can see mold on the window. That no longer is a comfort issue now it looks like a health issue. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 9:22 pm said by Warzau: Holy smokes you def NEED ventilation, need to lower the humidity via dehumidifiers or A/C ( remember to size it accordingly). Is ther ANY ventalation in the bathroom, fan or even opening a window? I can see mold on the window. That no longer is a comfort issue now it looks like a health issue. Thanks. There isn't anything in the bathroom, no window and no fan. There is also no vents (house doesn't have central heat/air) Best that can be done is leaving the bathroom door open. As for my bedroom, I'm going to spend the day tomorrow trying to clean up all the mold I can find in my room. I'm coughing and having trouble breathing now.. I don't know if it's from that, or from the humidity. It's currently 67 F outside with 92 % Humidity. Dew Point is 65 F. I'm assuming it's 80 F in my room with 90% humidity at least. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Warzau to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-21 9:28 pm That def is way to high you ideally want a humidity RH of 30-60%. I'd tell you GP that if they don't want to do a/c. At least have a vent installed in the Bathroom. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Pacrat to MineCoast MVM 2007-Jan-21 11:14 pm If they won't let you get a window A/C unit then at least get a small capacity room de-humidifier. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Zaber to MineCoast Member 2007-Jan-21 11:40 pm As for the mold a chlorine bleach and water solution will kill it. It doesn't take a lot of bleach. If you don't do something about the humidity the mold will come back, no matter how many times you kill it. If you were to stay there you would need an AC or at minimum a dehumidifier. I would suggest just moving out, I think in the end it would make you happier. If you are like I am at least. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 12:40 am said by Zaber: As for the mold a chlorine bleach and water solution will kill it. It doesn't take a lot of bleach. If you don't do something about the humidity the mold will come back, no matter how many times you kill it. If you were to stay there you would need an AC or at minimum a dehumidifier. I would suggest just moving out, I think in the end it would make you happier. If you are like I am at least. That's my goal... I do want to move out, but I have to figure out how to get my debt in control first. I'm not far from it being under control, but still not there yet. How's this? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Pacrat MVM 2007-Jan-22 2:33 am Anything you can do to reduce the humidity will help. And by reducing the humidity, you will also make the heat more bearable. That "But it's a dry heat!" that we all have heard about the southwest is pretty true... to a point. Anything will help. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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robbin to MineCoast Mod 2007-Jan-22 2:44 am said by MineCoast: ...Know what my grandparents said? "If that happens, We'll just run a new line in the window" So woulld they let you have a portable air conditioner with a hose or two going out the window? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 2:46 am said by robbin: said by MineCoast: ...Know what my grandparents said? "If that happens, We'll just run a new line in the window" So woulld they let you have a portable air conditioner with a hose or two going out the window? I don't think so for a couple reasons: 1. They are worried about the wiring in this house. When I had a Window unit in my room, the fuse would pop once in a while 2. Homeowners Insurance doesn't want anything obstructing the windows for some reason. I don't understand that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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robbin Mod 2007-Jan-22 3:09 am I can understand the fuse issue. I don't think the insurance company would care as you could just have a board with holes in it for the ducts in the window with it partially open (locked from inside) and then if you need to open it the board just falls out. Hope that makes sense. I thint the insurance thing is they want a second exit out of your room. It looks like you have a little apartment which probably only has one exterior door. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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SparkChaser to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 3:10 am The dehumidifier is going to draw about the same as a small A/C. So you still have the power problems. They also put out a fair about of heat. You might lower the humidity but raise the temperature to where it is still quite unbearable. The insurance doesn't want to block the window in case of fire. I'm not sure if the hose type qualifies. I think Robbin's idea is the way to go. BTW-that mold is way beyond the point of being a cosmetic problem | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 3:18 am Thanks Guys. I'm not sure what I'm going to do then, but the insurance thing makes since now. However, I don't know if my grandparents are going to renew. They increased their rates and they wanted every AC unit out of the house and then we would have to provide "proof" that we were still cooling the house some other way and they also wanted the entire house rewired. The insurance companies around here have been ripping people off. There are so many houses for sale here and some people are paying $800+ a month for insurance on a $200,000 home. It's all over the local news. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 3:33 am Interesting enough, I just figured out my bills and also living expenses if I moved out alone. I might be able to swing it. I know for sure I could swing it if I don't have Cable TV or Internet. I figured $1500 to live on my own, this includes car payment, insurance, food, gas, water, power, cable, etc. If I cut cable, that would save around $100 or so I think. This might be possible! If I can get a loan to get all my credit cards into one payment, like a 3 year loan... I can just rent a place for $400 a month for a few years and then buy a house. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Zaber to MineCoast Member 2007-Jan-22 7:32 am That would help, but if you are doing debit control save the money. I have also responded to your thread in the automotive forum, but not a direct reply to it. You may want to look at the info there too. good luck, its hard but so worth it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Greg_Z to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 7:39 pm Too much humidity, will actually start corroding components, and can cause other problems (ie 100% is pretty much rain). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Greg_Z to MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 7:42 pm And they just had new siding put on the outside? That is just window dressing. What are they going to do, when the structure falls down? Blame it on the siding guy? I am sorry, but the house really needs a totall gut job, may be just tear it down. Have them watch Extreme home makeover, and explain that is what is done to bad homes. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| 61999674 (banned) | 61999674 (banned) to MineCoast Member 2007-Jan-22 9:57 pm Wow, ya'll have very serious moisture problem, explain to your grandparents that the mold you can see it but a small portion of what is hiding behind the walls, and Black Mold is/can be deadly. Without a window in the bathroom there really needs to be an exhaust fan. Once "drywall" gets wet it becomes landfill. If they/you have a "professional" do the heatpump it will look like it was there when the house was built. Sounds like this is one of those "middle class" Florida houses built in the early 70's very cheap using every definition. This house needs the services of a good electrical and HVAC person. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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MineCoast Premium Member 2007-Jan-22 10:00 pm said by 61999674: Wow, ya'll have very serious moisture problem, explain to your grandparents that the mold you can see it but a small portion of what is hiding behind the walls, and Black Mold is/can be deadly. Without a window in the bathroom there really needs to be an exhaust fan. Once "drywall" gets wet it becomes landfill. If they/you have a "professional" do the heatpump it will look like it was there when the house was built. Sounds like this is one of those "middle class" Florida houses built in the early 70's very cheap using every definition. Thanks. It was actually built in 1960 and my grandparents bought it in the 70's for $21,000 I believe. I wouldn't expect the house to be worth over $45,000 right now, if that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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